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fasterik • yesterday at 11:46 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

So what is the metric we should use to determine whether the U.S. has "lost" manufacturing, or "brought it back"? What should the target be?


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bruce511 • today at 4:29 AM

I think most people here would say "jobs".

While it's true the US is a massive producer, it focuses on automation, which means more productivity per job.

And this is the crux of it all. US factory jobs weren't Los "overseas" as much as they were lost to machines. Each production line needs fewer and fewer workers.

Yes, you can cherry-pick examples (software jobs going to India or coal mines closing etc) but even mines use much less labor today per ton of say coal than they did 50 years ago.

So really, I think, the sense is that good blue-collar union jobs are what's dwindling. It's less about raw output and more about job losses.

hawski • today at 7:43 AM

I would be interested in seeing a list that would order countries by:

- a sheer number of assembly lines,

- number of SKUs,

- automation engineer jobs.

Something more fuzzy: mean/median wait time from a fully specced project to a 10,000 unit batch. Of course only for products where such a batch number makes sense, but probably it could be divided to a few groups of batch magnitudes. For this to be an interesting metric it would require to pick several specific classes of products. For example: per Integrated Circuit number magnitude, per price point, a car, a smartphone, a TV, a home radiator, a bathtub, etc.

excannuk • today at 1:11 AM

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