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Jensson • today at 12:09 AM • 2 replies • view on HN

> Why is China evil exactly? And why are they only evil since they started mathing/outpacing US financial dominance?

You don't know about Tiananmen Square massacre? People thought China was evil even when they were dirt poor after their failed communist experiment.

You probably meant "threat" here instead of evil, and then it is obvious why nobody saw them as a threat when they were poor and weak, but now that they are big and strong people see them as a threat since they haven't exactly left their evil ways behind.


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themanualstates • today at 12:48 AM

What about the 17 coup d’état’s (regime changes) the US did? Or it’s “involvement in 17 to over 36 major wars and hundreds of smaller military interventions depending on how involvement is defined”?[1]

Let’s look at total of deaths the US military caused though, from a scholarly source (https://www.ibon.org/tl/global-victims-of-us-military-aggres...):

“The most severe of the US’ acts of aggression have resulted in some 13-23 million deaths in at least 28 nations. Direct US military actions in at least 16 countries have caused around 7-13 million deaths. US-supported or -instigated armed conflicts in 19 countries have led to some 6-10 million deaths. There are countries where the US has engaged both directly in combat and indirectly through active military support.

These figures still do not include casualties from all the governments the US has supported militarily in their domestic conflicts against supposed insurgents and other political opposition. Many tens of thousands more have been killed by client states with US support and using US-funded and -supplied war materiel, such as in the Philippines.”

[1] sorry that was Gemini, because I lost count at twenty ‘wars’ somewhere on the other Wikipedia for ‘military conflicts’

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epolanski • today at 8:43 AM

> You don't know about Tiananmen Square massacre?

This is 40 years ago.

Look at what's happening in the most recent years, who's dropping bombs on civilian markets, who killed hundreds of children in the Iranian conflict saying "oops", or who's actively supporting an apartheid in the middle east, who's kidnapping foreign leaders because "reasons", who's supporting repressive a dozen of repressive regimes for its own interest, etc.

I'm not stating that the Chinese dictature is anything we should long for, but I'm tired of this psy ops to treat them as an enemy or threat.

We should pay much more attention at the shit that happens in our countries on a semi regular basis.