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blinkingled • today at 2:38 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

I asked it to implement the simplest todo in ghostty codebase and it failed badly - kept going in circles fixing one compile error and introducing another. Qwen 3.8 was slower (40 tok/s compared to 75) but did get it done.


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nl • today at 3:19 AM

> Qwen 3.8 was slower

Is that Qwen 3.8 27B? Because yes, you'd expect a plain 27B model to be better than a 24B-A2B MoE model all else being equal.

(All else isn't equal though of course - Qwen models are very, very good at coding)

Gemma-4 26BA4B would be a more similar comparison.

ghboo0927 • today at 3:44 AM

That's not surprising. Even Liquid's own documentation states that coding isn't this model's strong suit. Its strength lies in tool calling.

sourweasel • today at 2:51 AM

Have you tried Gemma-4 26BA4B? I feel like it is underrated for tasks like that, but maybe I've just been lucky with my use cases.

samstevens • today at 3:27 AM

in my experience it's stronger for terminal use, like chaining bash calls, monitoring background tasks, etc. rather than for straight up coding/swe work. Good with web search and file search rather than just editing software.