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slowin • yesterday at 9:21 PM • 1 reply • view on HN

Murdered people can't vote. People forced off their land and over an artificially created border can't vote. Israel is no democracy.

> America was a democracy while we were exterminating our native population.

I would argue that it was not for the very same reasons (and of course there were many other classes not allowed to vote at the time). Killing someone robs them of their right to vote.


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JumpCrisscross • yesterday at 9:49 PM

> Murdered people can't vote. People forced off their land and over an artificially created border can't vote

Sure. But this also describes a lot of well-accepted democracies' histories.

Perhaps you're thinking of a liberal democracy?

> would argue that it was not

Sure, according to a personal definition that countries cease to be democracies any time they go to war (or more narrowly, commit war crimes), Israel is not a democracy...

> there were many other classes not allowed to vote at the time

Most democracies also prohibit children and non-citizens from voting. The term you may be looking for is full democracy. And I think most people and experts agree Israel is not a full democracy [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

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