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afavour • yesterday at 1:47 AM • 16 replies • view on HN

Looks like a sensible turning down of the Cybertruck aesthetic into something that looks good.

That said, the production issues with the Cybertruck mean you’d be a fool to reserve one of these. Let others do it, find out how late it arrives, what glued panels fall off at speed and wait for the inevitable recalls. Tesla has torched their engineering reputation lately and this page is making a lot of promises about revolutionary things.


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gopalv • yesterday at 1:59 AM

> what glued panels fall off

The Lotus Elise was famously glued together instead of welds. The original Roadster also had the same innards.

This is clearly not a car for someone who wants to go from A to B, but a lot of Tesla components gets binned together for the next iteration of the cheaper car because they always order too many of them.

Oddly enough this makes their cheaper cars more reliable than the expensive ones (think about the Audis right when Ferdinand Piech took over Lamborgini).

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MetaWhirledPeas • yesterday at 6:04 PM

> Let others do it, find out how late it arrives, what glued panels fall off at speed and wait for the inevitable recalls.

Sound advice for people looking for a practical car. But if you have Lambo money who cares? I have never seen a supercar described as reliable.

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nradov • yesterday at 2:03 AM

This type of vehicle isn't intended to drive at speed, at least not very far. It's targeted at collectors who will park it in a garage with their other supercars. It's a status symbol with wheels, not transportation or even a toy for track days. (And I don't mean that as a criticism, there's nothing wrong with wealthy people buying collectibles.)

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jbm • yesterday at 2:20 AM

Everyone is talking about the Cybertruck, but both the 3 and the Y have plenty of engineering problems as well. I believe both cars are listed as below-average reliability by CR.

Worse, there are no 3rd parties producing cheaper suspension parts, so your old Model 3 is going to have to spend 2000-3000$ on an yearly basis until you get sick of fixing the suspension. Tesla claims to have fixed the issue on newer models (and apparently they did a lot of work on the suspension), but they don't really take responsibility for their old cars so I doubt they will take responsibility when their design causes problems for you.

I do enjoy driving my 2019 SR+ Model 3, but I hate when people do the whole "Well on first principles, EVs have less parts so they are more reliable..." thing. My Toyota Sienna has been far more reliable than the Model 3, despite having many, many more parts.

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doginasuit • yesterday at 2:06 AM

That was my first thought, Cybertruck: The Car. But then it drove up a wall and stopped on the ceiling and flew down. That was awesome. I'm sure it will be a nightmare to own.

combobyte • yesterday at 1:50 AM

> glued panels fall off at speed

Given some of the tauted 'features' of this thing, I'd be more concerned about it blowing up in my driveway.

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ryukoposting • yesterday at 10:33 PM

> revolutionary things

Even if they make this work, what exactly is it revolutionizing?

Every generation of high-dollar sports cars has had something you could point to and say "that was way ahead of its time" or "they pioneered that." A few examples: fuel injection in the 1950s, variable valves and CFD the 1980s-1990s, dual-clutch transmissions in the 2000s, hybridization and electrification more recently.

You cannot tell me with a straight face that 20 years from now, my commuter will be outfitted with cold-gas thrusters and fans sucking it into the pavement.

Supercars have always been gaudy playthings for the wealthy. I think the difference is that Tesla doesn't even pretend the Roadster represents anything else.

m463 • yesterday at 3:20 AM

I liked the rounded one lots better:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/NextGenT...

(just personal preference)

Gud • yesterday at 5:52 AM

Looks good? The previous version looked incredible. This looks like the Delorean and the Cybertruck had an unwanted child.

rgbrenner • yesterday at 2:03 AM

at least the CyberTruck shipped.

9 years since the announcement of Roadster v2, people who paid 50k deposits are still waiting.

Time to up the promises, and ask for more $50k deposits for v3!

raydev • today at 1:40 AM

> the production issues with the Cybertruck mean you’d be a fool to reserve one of these

I'd argue it's not the Cybertruck that is evidence of lack of care, but the fact that this car was promised 10 years ago and Elon took people's money to fund it. And now it's going to "fly" somehow and it's still years away.

mcrk • yesterday at 7:48 AM

I just wanted to get one for $1mln I have laying somwhere, but now I'll wait for more reviews. Thanks for the tip.

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F7F7F7 • yesterday at 5:29 AM

Looks like a Fiero

NewsaHackO • yesterday at 1:54 AM

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