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IshKebab • yesterday at 6:20 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

To be honest it's starting to sound like Google were right and adding JPEG XL support was a mistake.


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F3nd0 • today at 7:28 AM

This is exactly the kind of misunderstanding I worried about in another reply. [1]

AVIF uses the AV1 codec. For the past several years, AV1 has been enjoying a wide interest and a continuous stream of improvements as the best, open, royalty-free video codec around that pretty much everyone had agreed to support from the get go.

JPEG XL started out with a smaller group behind it and took a massive hit when Google decided not to support it in Chrome (and by extension, the entire web, because market share). That made JPEG XL’s future as the universal format very uncertain for a few years. Excitement waned, development slowed down and was further divided to develop a new encoder which Mozilla later said they wanted.

So for a good while, AVIF was steadily improving and approaching its full potential, while JPEG XL was not. The article compares the current state of the current encoders; in no way does it indicate how good the formats themselves are. The article makes note of this. [2] It’s been known for years that JPEG XL compression can still be improved by quite a bit, so I imagine the current encoders are still far from reaching the format’s full potential. (Heck, they don’t even make use of all its features from what I know!) Back when it was first proposed, JPEG XL was very competitive. With interest in the format hopefully renewed, we might see it catch back up with AVIF and overtake it again. Or we might not. We have no way of knowing for sure right now.

  [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50128587
  [2]: https://jakearchibald.com/2026/jpeg-xl-vs-avif/#:~:text=Both%20AVIF,in%20future
usef- • yesterday at 11:46 PM

It seems pdf chose jpegxl, so they would have shipped with a decoder regardless. But, yeah.

est • today at 3:00 AM

WHy? Browsers should have supported plethora of formats!

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