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pmxi • today at 8:56 AM • 12 replies • view on HN

Hilarious sentence: "DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is a minor update to DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash, delivering substantial improvements across reasoning, coding, agentic tasks, and visual benchmarks." (emphasis mine)


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freakynit • today at 8:58 AM

Kinda shows their team is more engineers than marketers.

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barrell • today at 2:42 PM

To me this implies they continued the training run for 4.1 and it improved. A 4.2 would imply they changed something about how it’s trained/how inference works, and a 5.0 would be a major update (who knows what would have changed).

This is just my headcanon though.

jaynetics • today at 9:11 AM

It's not really contradictory, minor changes can have major effects.

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nkmnz • today at 10:36 AM

That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind.

cardboard9926 • today at 9:41 AM

Hoping it's minor relative to what's coming

LPisGood • today at 2:03 PM

Minor updates can provide substantial improvements sometimes, it really depends on the specifics.

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ilaksh • today at 2:25 PM

They changed how it works substantially. I think it should be 4.2.

skeledrew • today at 2:24 PM

Quiet confidence backed by provenance :).

surgical_fire • today at 10:00 AM

It's a bit refreshing to read updates from an AI lab without bullshit doomerism and overwhelming sense of self-importance from shit like OpenAI and Claude.

Also, DS is an excellent model.

fivedogit • today at 10:42 AM

I'm at 1 trying to get to 10. I move to 2. Minor update. 100% improvement towards goal.

These are not mutually exclusive.

ReptileMan • today at 9:18 AM

That is how exponential functions work. Improve every aspect of a system with 1% and you may get easily 50% more performance.

vrganj • today at 9:53 AM

It's about playing to two different audiences.

The CCP requires extensive certification for new major releases, to make sure a model doesn't do anything they don't want it to.

To get around this, Chinese labs only bump versions when they have to and usually claim it's a minor update.

Then on the other side, they're obviously trying to market to the tech crowd...

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