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user43928 • yesterday at 10:46 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

Musk already talked about the cold gas thrusters for the Tesla Roadster in 2018.

It would seem that your theory that the idea arose out of a need to distract from current financials doesn't hold merit.

He probably just wanted to design a cool car.


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jordanb • yesterday at 3:28 PM

This was a "the cybertruck will be a boat" style claim.

Clearly some time between 2018 and now he decided he'd have to actually have it done and ordered his people to make a stunt car with thrusters.

grey-area • yesterday at 10:53 AM

Wasn’t aware of that detail thanks, it’s such a bizarre idea.

I disagree that it couldn’t come out of thinking of how to justify merging spacex and Tesla which he’s wanted to do for a long time.

This isn’t a cool car, it’s a gimmick. It will never be road-worthy, would lose money, and I doubt they’ll ever even sell it to customers.

As to why he’s going this dog and pony show now, we can only speculate, but I can’t think of any reasons that are good for Tesla (vs Musk personally) can you?

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origini • yesterday at 11:52 AM

I don't know what stoped him just designing and building the roadster by now or any update or upgrade to it.

llm_nerd • yesterday at 11:23 AM

Musk also said production was starting on the Roadster in 2020. It turns out that things Musk says don't mean much.

And it can still be a distraction. The fact that they went through all this effort for a fantastically unreasonable thing just to wow for a company that is off the rails is...pretty telling. Have you never worked with someone who is late for everything, always overpromising and underdelivering, and as it becomes more apparently their promises get more exaggerated and unreasonable? That's Musk. Like "look you can play games on your screen", which absolutely no one asked for in a car, and for which it does much shittier than a $200 pad.

For that matter it's Trump too, and they're both cut from the same cloth -- don't like the dumb arch? Well now it has snipers and drones! And also it will eliminate the debt, deficit, income taxes, and...

So instead of just starting production of a vehicle 8 years behind schedule, look, new distraction! Amazeballs! Don't worry coming real soon now. Just put in those deposits!

I mean, the one part of this story that is unclear and no one seems to be asking hard questions is the compressor status -- there are vague, handwavy (oh we'll build a compressor claims, but I have huge doubts). A 5000 psi to 10000 psi compressor in the real world today is enormous. It's industrial equipment that generates enormous amounts of heat, is hilariously loud, and takes enormous power. While I am 100% certain this dog and pony show had their tanks filled by external massive compressors out of sight, I am pretty skeptical Tesla has any magic innovation in that field.

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