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seaucre • yesterday at 7:17 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

I keep seeing this assertion. What regulations have they proposed that would have prevented this new model? I thought they want to pace the frontier, which this model is not.


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kennywinker • yesterday at 7:35 PM

You are taking their words literally, rather than looking at the side effects of any effort to "pace the frontier".

0xbadcafebee • yesterday at 8:50 PM

Dario has not (and will not) say he wants to ban Chinese models outright. But:

1. He's made many posts about how he thinks "dangerous" models are bad (https://www.anthropic.com/news/position-open-weights-models)

2. He writes posts proving Chinese open weight models are "dangerous" (https://insightsintegration.com/anthropic-warns-of-advanced-...)

3. He talks about about how he wants stronger govt regulation of AI (https://www-cdn.abcnews.com/Business/exclusive-anthropic-ceo...), and explicitly mentions he does not trust China at all and doesn't want them to have Mythos.

Do the math: 1 + 2 + 3 = he wants to regulate/ban the Chinese open weights.

Of course, Anthropic and OpenAI will then write posts about how their own models are dangerous - but that's okay, they're the good guys.

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zmmmmm • yesterday at 8:41 PM

Go read Dario's screed on GLM, or his other one one on how your toaster could be part of a distributed open model that self replicates. Every second blog post is some doom scare about the dire consequences of open models. Go look at the new ToU [0] which are now pages and pages of things you can't do with Anthropic models. Check how they will ban your account if you are persistently mean to Claude now.

He's completely transparently campaigning for regulation. It must be very frustrating to him that the Trump admin is completely non-responsive. He probably thought Anthropic would have the whole market stitched up and water tight by now.

[0] https://www.anthropic.com/legal/aup

senordevnyc • yesterday at 7:59 PM

Literally zero, but that never stopped a good conspiracy theory, especially when half of HN hates the big labs because of fear for their own economic future.

OpenAI and Anthropic aren’t even slightly worried about DeepSeek.

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