To calibrate even better that's just what the TFA is concerned.

The conversation on HN has expanded way beyond that, used as a mere starting point, and in this subthread is about the "death by a 1000 cuts" of modern Apple issues.

Seems like you've taken up the position of being an absolute rock

Read the room and look up what "discontent" means.

It's like talking about a button on Trump's suit and expecting no politics to come up.