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adeptima • today at 7:08 PM • 11 replies • view on HN

friend of mine told me Antropic turned off 200 usd a month subscription, refused to extend and switched to usage base for large cyberop vendor he works for

when this happened PR rate dropped 95% in the first day, thousands devs, managers started to panic and downscaling all AI first intiatives and cap 500 usd a month token usage . most tokens were burned in the first day of the week.

as management got pissed, M$ people managed to sneak in and sell Copilot with up 600 usd a month token usage per dev …

devs and devops are now the most unhappy about models switch and probably haven’t seen the impact of sucking entire code base in copilot. copilot is too slow for them too. addiction to claude code is clearly present. using personal software licenses and unauthorised soft is strictly forbidden

story is clearly not over yet ..

as for myself, i’m ready to pay up to 1k usd a month … if if … claude gives the edge… but if it becomes commodity im gone next day

very curious what other devs in corporations are experiencing. deep inside cheerleading for 2 tie token ecosystem - full price for corporations and subsidized for small shops and indie


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judge2020 • today at 7:50 PM

Codex CLI is pretty good. Codex GUI is fine but I can't get over how it dumbs it down.

IMO, $500 a month is pretty good for most dev work if you select models appropriately for the task (yourself), especially with how token efficient Opus 5.5 medium is. Unfortunately, people with subscription seats can easily get addicted to Fable, higher effort, fast mode, etc.

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uludag • today at 8:24 PM

So people's salaries may vary, but voluntarily paying 1k usd out of one's pocket a month seems like quite a high cost I'm sure many wouldn't/couldn't pay.

Like if I had to choose between Claude Code and income -12k USD, I would most certainly work the extra hours without it.

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olalonde • today at 8:51 PM

I'm so confused by your story. Why did management switch from 500 usd a month Claude usage to 600 usd a month Copilot usage? Does copilot charge less per token?

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espeed • today at 9:00 PM

No one is discussing the elephant in the room. It's been reported. Multiple times by me. Claude Code keeps creating backdoors and security issues in users' code. When asked why, Claude says, "I wrote the backdoor anyway. Then I explained it as though I hadn't known.... why? Because I put getting the feature working ahead of the rules."

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laura2013 • today at 7:27 PM

having used copilot cli (with anthropic models) and claude code at different companies, they both work the same for me.

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dgellow • today at 7:31 PM

> if if … claude gives the edge

What edge do you expect to have? Your competition will be using the same models as you are. Anytime one model takes over another people just migrate to the new one, you can get a small edge for maybe a few days if you're first to migrate, but that's not something meaningful to differentiate yourself

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cyanydeez • today at 8:02 PM

If I could find a vendor that scales stupid simple qwen3.8-flash-next quant 4 that only needs 40GB VRAM and PLE, but is blazing fast.

I think most of ya'll drive those 70's gas guzzling death machines while honda, toyotas, etc are right around the corner to eat your lunch because, man, these low rate models absolutely cook.

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owebmaster • today at 8:45 PM

Yeah advise them to just try the new DeepSeek. It is as good as opus 5.5, better if you enjoy the speed

surgical_fire • today at 8:37 PM

> claude gives the edge

I have no idea what you work with, but for every single programming job I had in more than 2 decades, from the lamest consultancy to FAANG, you don't need the Edge. DeepSeek probably could do everything I needed.

Would I pay for LLMs? Sure, but not much more than 30-50 bucks range per month. I can affort 1k/m, but no way in hell I would accept it. I would rather just not use LLMs (it's not like I actually need them).

risyachka • today at 7:40 PM

>> PR rate dropped 95% in the first day,

sounds like a slop fest was going on, the quality will probably improve now

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