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Onavo • today at 7:53 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

Well not just battlebots, real life 6th gen fighters now all lack the vertical stabilizer so they have to rely on very sensitive real-time software control of the elevator/spoilerons to do banks and yaws. Not sure if it counts as under-actuated but they are tremendously difficult to steer without computer control.


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schiffern • today at 9:02 PM

  >Not sure if it counts as under-actuated
Generally these aircraft still have three+ actuators, they just replace the rudder with differential spoiler or split elevons. Three actuators, three axes. Same number, so it's not under-actuated.

You're referencing the fact that it's dynamically unstable, and thus needs to be stabilized with a computer. That's a different thing.

You can also have aircraft which are under-actuated yet are dynamically stable. One example is a parafoil, which achieves controlled flight using only two actuators (pull lines).

jmspring • today at 10:20 PM

Is there a way to track what's going on in the battle bots community? It was pretty cliche, but battle bots was fun to watch in the 90s/2000s.

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jmaw • today at 8:12 PM

I'm not super familiar with heavy equipment like dozers and such, but some of them may also have a single motor to pressurize hydraulic fluid and valves to articulate the various pistons. So may be able to make the argument there too

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KolmogorovComp • today at 8:21 PM

> but they are tremendously difficult to steer without computer control.

they are not humanly pilotable without computers. they are inherently unstable.