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petcat • today at 10:26 AM • 2 replies • view on HN

Data and GPU compute capacity.

Chinese labs do not release "open weight" models because they think it is good for humanity. They do it because they are severely GPU compute constrained due to the Nvidia and ASML embargos. All available GPUs have to go toward training which leaves very little capacity to host inference at scale. So they release the models and encourage EU and USA 3rd parties to host them.

China will inevitably produce their own AI chips and then they will lock down their models just the same as everyone else.

The real loser in all this is obviously Europe, which has nothing competitive once the Chinese models are gone.


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pzo • today at 10:54 AM

> The real loser in all this is obviously Europe, which has nothing competitive once the Chinese models are gone.

Those models are open source / open weights. Europeans can continue with Chinese models as a base same like Cursor used Kimi K2.5 a base for their composer 2.0 model or SWE-2 from cognition is post-trained Kimi K3

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Schlagbohrer • today at 1:23 PM

But how does that benefit the Chinese companies to have other firms host their models and gain profit from the inference, without having to pay the training costs? Training by itself is not profitable at all, only serving the newly trained model (inference) is.

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