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yipinwong • today at 4:08 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

You gotta make trade-offs.

Two facets here. Economy and Security. Is current US governemnt in favor of providing cheaper, less SOTA models to Americans at the cost of exposing US content to Chinese firms? Chinese firms by Chinese law are forced to handover whenever CCP asks them to.

Given all sensitive information, the security outjustify the cost here.

There are other areas we need to look at but for my analogy, this should work.


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glorth • today at 6:48 PM

> Chinese firms by Chinese law are forced to handover whenever CCP asks them to.

Are we pretending the same isn't true of American firms?

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randbyte • today at 5:32 PM

lol. Yeah just use “CCP” and “security” as bogeyman keywords you’d absolve all the crimes from closed labs and win arguments automatically

ofjcihen • today at 4:37 PM

Eh I don’t buy it. The framework for a US owned Deepseek is there and easy to put together. What isn’t there is the money.

My assumption is that money has been hitting the right pockets to make that not happen.

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dTal • today at 7:12 PM

The orders bans the use of open weights provided by DeepSeek too. It bans the use of the open source inference engine DeepSeek released today.

Sure. Wayyy more secure to shovel federal data into OpenAI /s