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eig • today at 8:08 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

While Clinical Trials are the most expensive step and have a 90% failure rate, it is not the *source* of the failures, it's just where failures are revealed.

Much of whether or not a candidate drug will succeed was determined all the way back in the design/discovery stage. If we can design better drugs, then we would enjoy a higher probability of success in the later clinical trials.

The single biggest improvement to pharma drug development would be from increasing the probability of success in clinical trials.


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vhiremath4 • today at 8:15 PM

Is it fair to say the source of the failures is we simply do not understand the complex relationship between the drug design (chemistry, cell therapy, etc.) and the biology (the complete system of the living thing). If we could understand that relationship, we could design better drugs? I know this is very hand-wavy. Probably so much so as to not be a useful thing to say, but I'm just trying to understand.

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entee • today at 10:28 PM

Some trials fail because we didn't have a "better" drug for a given target, many fail because we don't know the right biology. Biology and knowing precisely how to modulate the right thing is more gating than "design a better compound".

Better for what is the question and while sometimes the answer is "solubility, metabolism, off target toxicity", more often it's "you misunderstood something about the biology of this disease".

Maybe you needed more potency than your assays said you needed.

Maybe you missed something else the target does.

Maybe you had the right effect on the target but the body found a way to compensate (in an undesirable way).

Maybe the target looks like it matters in all sorts of model systems, but in real life it doesn't matter at all!

Many such cases. AI might marginally help in these scenarios, but doesn't look like it will eliminate the problem. AI can't help us with what we fundamentally don't know and have zero data for, or for which data is extremely hard to get.