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m3kw9 • today at 1:10 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

How are they trusted if they can just generate any key they like in their back room?


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swores • today at 1:42 PM

"Trusted" means how people treated them, it doesn't mean the extent to which they deserved trust.

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RALaBarge • today at 3:10 PM

There are chains of trust which are established for SSL certs, centered around the idea that if we can believe Mozilla et al. that the server responding is who they claim they are. Up until now, that is good enough to establish the trust needed to accept the 2 keys in the connection are connected, and then a secure connection could be established to the host server.

Mozilla et al. could claim trust for Microsoft and then MS would be an intermediary for Mozilla. There is a long history of sketchy intermediaries like GoDaddy and others that root certificate providers like Mozilla would block at times due to abuse.

This leads to users, usually ones that are not that technically savvy, seeing 'insecure' warnings on a page that actually offers HTTPS. ..but since the root servers no longer accept them as trusted, everything that GoDaddy supported, and every intermediary (child) cert which they approved would no longer be trusted and you would see a non-secure warning.

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bigfishrunning • today at 1:35 PM

That's the thing about trust -- in order to get into the root key store for windows, chrome, linux, etc they were trusted not to do that.

they violated that trust.