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Systemerror7A69 • today at 7:47 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

Well, Models are hard to just distill down to a single benchmark number, or even a few across multiple different benchmark - they all behave and work slightly differently and you can find some who work or feel better for you and your use-case specifically.

But you're right, Mistral Large 4 seems a much more expensive but overall weaker model across the board.

The reason to use them would be, well, because they're...Mistral. They're in EU, france is large in nuclear energy so the energy cost of training has much less of an environmental impact, the data protection laws are very good in EU. This can really be a deciding factor for many EU companies, and I think it's good that they now have something which is at least semi-usable. (apparently)

It's also good that other options exist, even if they are worse. Deepseek is kind of like a large specter looming over every model release, because it's just SO cheap and good. That doesn't mean we should abandon every other model.

Still, the model is not really competitive on price and abilities alone. I'm mostly happy to see Mistral still in the fight.


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petercooper • today at 7:51 PM

I say this with a slight tongue in cheek, but Mistral does have a better option: they recently added GLM 5.3 to their platform (and it works rather well). Not trained in the EU, though, of course ;-)

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openclawuser • today at 9:00 PM

Everything feels very European.

Unproductive company that is 3rd place (assuming we are lumping 4 better US models and 3 Chinese models).

The only thing that gives it value is that it's generated in some region in Europe, like random cheese or wine.

But I still can't imagine a usecase outside patriotism.

Privacy can be solved by self hosting a US or Chinese model.

Seems performative.

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