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Gigachad • today at 12:28 AM • 6 replies • view on HN

Time is the whole point though. Everyone was terrified and shutting their websites down because they believed the exploit would be running wild on the internet in between it hitting git and them being able to update the server.

If it takes a week to come up with a working exploit code, the critical services have time to update.


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anonymous908213 • today at 12:41 AM

Time is part of the point, but it is not the whole point. The whole point involves the fact that this impacts two decades worth of PHP versions. Even if it took months to exploit, there is going to be a long, long tail of breaches against ill-maintained legacy sites.

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martinald • today at 12:43 AM

But just because there isn't a working PoC on GitHub doesn't mean there isn't one and things aren't been actively exploited.

If you are a bad actor you probably don't share your PoC around as it means less boxes to hit.

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athrowaway3z • today at 5:49 AM

Time is not the whole point. How are people in this thread this clueless?

Risk is the whole point. The websites going down first were government / healthcare.

Do you expect these websites to take the risk? Risks that you now feel is justified because hindsight seemed to have collapsed the possibility-space?

We can talk about this again next year; if still nobody has demonstrated a working consistent attack that _could_ have pwnd my gov and medical records, then we can reflect on the severity score and the response.

mrheosuper • today at 12:36 AM

With AI i think it's safe to assume it would only take hours after you give it what/where to look

nextaccountic • today at 2:01 AM

AI makes developing this exploit faster though

hannasanarion • today at 12:46 AM

That "if" is load bearing and increasingly flat-out false.

Crowdstrike's average "breakout times", the time gap between a first successful infiltration and maximal exploitation, has gone from days or hours prior to 2024 to minutes or seconds now.