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rootnod3 • yesterday at 5:17 PM • 17 replies • view on HN

Vote with your wallet. Fuck them.

You shouldn’t have to use LLMs to run your software.

Give it another 6-12 months until the big AI shops shut those capabilities down and running local ones becomes cost prohibitive.


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isodev • yesterday at 5:20 PM

> Vote with your wallet.

Apple is too big for that. Hard regulation is the only way out right now. Maybe breaking them up too.

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_aavaa_ • yesterday at 6:52 PM

I’ll vote with my vote thank you. My table’s manufacturer shouldn’t get a say in what I put on my table, and Apple shouldn’t get a say about my phone either.

These clearly anti-consumer practices should just be illegal.

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2001zhaozhao • yesterday at 10:21 PM

This comment made me think that someone should pull an ArtCraft on Android or iOS by making a good linux phone skin, with high performance auto-updating wrappers for various web apps to make them as convenient as mobile native ones. Then we can actually ditch the big corps and bask in our LLM-enabled open source utopia. Hmmmmm.

orangecat • yesterday at 5:48 PM

Give it another 6-12 months until the big AI shops shut those capabilities down and running local ones becomes cost prohibitive

I don't expect that to happen, but I do expect Apple et al to spend trillions of tokens hardening their platforms against users and red-teaming to find these sorts of holes before release.

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hnlmorg • yesterday at 5:53 PM

> Vote with your wallet

The loss of your purchase is insignificant compared to the money Apple and Google make from their walled gardens.

Plus what other viable options are there in this duopoly?

Apparently there’s a popular 3rd option in Asia but is there any support for western apps? And how are you going to convince a million other people to switch?

codedokode • today at 1:29 AM

Many Android phones are not unlockable without hacking. They use cryptography to protect the bootloader and to get the unlock code for your own phone first you need to provide them all your information.

_heimdall • yesterday at 11:58 PM

Where would you point said wallet? Google isn't far behind Apple on this from, ahead in some ways, and many (all?) of the FOSS Linux powered phones cost even more than iPhones do.

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lrvick • yesterday at 7:52 PM

> and running local ones becomes cost prohibitive.

Running local models is getting -cheaper- every month in spite of rising hardware costs due to intelligence compression innovations like Bonsai2.

I build operating systems for a living using only consumer GPUs at home.

smokel • yesterday at 6:35 PM

> Vote with your wallet

If that would work, I'd be writing this on my iPhone Mini.

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ActorNightly • yesterday at 5:21 PM

>Give it another 6-12 months until the big AI shops shut those capabilities down and running local ones becomes cost prohibitive.

The local inference threshold has been crossed already. Its possible to achieve big model like performance through agent harnesses with local models.

kjshsh123 • yesterday at 6:21 PM

There are already open weight models that are quite capable and can use any provider.

neya • yesterday at 5:47 PM

> Vote with your wallet. Fuck them.

Easier said than done. Because, "Apple can do no wrong" is the general public perception. Look at any wrongdoing by Apple - whether they were caught slowing down the phones, degrading cameras on purpose or even the lawsuit where they were caught spying on people's voice recordings. There will always be some NPC defending them as if the billion dollar corporation gives a shit about them.

That or "Apple is the only pro-privacy company in the world" despite there being an active lawsuit against them for the exact opposite.

So, I say: Vote with your wallet. Fuck them...and the fanboys.

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miohtama • yesterday at 11:09 PM

Buy Jolla phone

abcd_f • yesterday at 6:06 PM

> Vote with your wallet.

But what are the options?

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IAmBroom • yesterday at 6:52 PM

And while you're at it, make real change happen in the US national elections by voting for a third party! That'll show them!

dreamcompiler • yesterday at 5:21 PM

How are running local ones going to become cost prohibitive? Indications are that Nvidia has been channel stuffing (artificially inflating perceived demand), which suggests massive oversupply of GPUs.

Razengan • yesterday at 5:25 PM

> Give it another 6-12 months until the big AI shops shut those capabilities down and running local ones becomes cost prohibitive.

If Murican lobbying/corruption tries to snuff AI that threatens the Hutt cartels, China will accelerate it.