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Flatcircle • yesterday at 10:08 PM • 7 replies • view on HN

Kimi is so much more blunt and argumentative than USA models.

it's so funny, it will say things like. "We've already been over this 3 times and you refuse to accept my advice, asking the same question another way won't change the answer."

So funny


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taikon • yesterday at 10:12 PM

Haven't gotten to try it yet but that'd be a breath of fresh air. Too used to LLMs flip flopping at the slightest hint of challenge.

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hgoel • yesterday at 10:28 PM

I always appreciate when a model does that. It's amusing, but also having it be argumentatively wrong is a lot less annoying than being sycophantically wrong.

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justauserid • today at 7:21 AM

I might want to try that. DS 4.1 Flash anyway fares much better at it than GLM (which is quite not so good at this aspect). Hope Kimi is even better.

RestartKernel • today at 3:11 AM

I much prefer that for chat, but I'm somewhat worried that we shouldn't give tool-enabled agents an attitude. It's all roleplay, and I wouldn't want a system playing the role of an annoyed assistant to misuse its tools.

jwrallie • today at 1:58 AM

Reminds me of early test versions of Gemini Flash 2.0 (or was it 1.5?). It would argue something, try to prove itself right, realize it’s proof is agreeing with the user halfway through and, instead of admitting defeat, would backtrack to try another approach. So much fun.

jameson • yesterday at 10:48 PM

It could be the system prompt

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LordFast • yesterday at 11:46 PM

Eh, there's good and bad. The model mostly sticks to prevailing narratives in the training corpus. So if there is something that the prevailing narrative is really wrong about, it's gonna be just as pig-headed about it as a typical internet forum rando.

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