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lrvick • today at 9:06 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

The fact so many technical people believe that security and freedom are mutually exclusive, and pay for that lie, is proof the Apple propaganda is working exactly as intended.


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throw0101a • today at 11:51 AM

> The fact so many technical people believe that security and freedom are mutually exclusive, and pay for that lie, is proof the Apple propaganda is working exactly as intended.

My Aunt Millie's iPhone is secure against herself because she can't install random garbage off the Internet and is in a walled garden.

As someone who works in IT: users are often their (and their organization's) own worst enemy. We've tried training and blacklisting (with anti-virus) for decades, and it appears that whitelisting and locking things down is what actually works.

I'd be happy with a 'compromise' where there's a factory reset where you can install your own code but it blows an e-fuse to indicate that device is no longer 'OEM certified secure' state.

whh • today at 11:35 AM

My Mac's very secure and I can install whatever I want. But it wouldn't be secure or private to do that on iPhone, because profit.

lotsofpulp • today at 11:00 AM

In my case, it is the fact that a secure and free (as in speech) alternative does not exist that leads me to believe that. And not in the sense that it’s theoretically secure, I mean in the practical sense that I cannot trust my parents to use any currently available “free” device and not immediately load it up with malware.

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