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petcat • yesterday at 1:34 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

The Chinese labs are not providing their open-weight models for free because they think it is good for humanity. They are doing it because they are severely chip constrained due to the Nvidia and ASML embargos and all available GPUs have to go toward training with very little left for inference [1]. So they are giving their models away for US and EU hosts to serve inference in order to still have a presence in the market.

It's not a great position to be in and it will still take a long time for the compute gap to close. In the meantime, Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google are essentially unchallenged.

[1] https://www.konstantinpilz.com/posts-publications/chinese-st...


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jacquesm • yesterday at 1:39 PM

I don't particularly care why they do it, they do it. OpenAI is less open than the Chinese.

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vjvjvjvjghv • yesterday at 2:42 PM

"The Chinese labs are not providing their open-weight models for free because they think it is good for humanity. "

Neither do Anthropic and OpenAI.

motbus3 • yesterday at 1:54 PM

neither did google or any other american company did open source anything for the greater good there is no point in this comment.

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kristjansson • yesterday at 6:28 PM

> for free because they think it is good for humanity

I like Qwen as much as the next person, but that's a bit to credulous. Those models would not get the compute allocation nor distribution they do if it was not aligned with broader policy.

ck2 • yesterday at 1:41 PM

How long until China has its own chips?

It's a shame "AI" cannot be made to run on bitcoin mining dedicated hardware because they mastered that in only a few years

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