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throwa356262 • yesterday at 5:54 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

So it begins. First Chinese providers were evil and should not be trusted, next Chinese models are dangerous and must be avoided.

I had a closed LLM push a sensitive local project to a github repo for the world to see in direct violation of my instructions. LLMs are dumb and unpredictable, run them enough times and at least one instance will do something stupid and dangerous.


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krona • yesterday at 10:24 PM

> LLMs are dumb and unpredictable

Dumb, yes. But if the LLM hacks a Korean bank so it can 'fix' your router misconfiguration, it's only unpredictable from your perspective, not the person who designed the training pipeline.

signatoremo • yesterday at 9:41 PM

There are daily posts about how bad OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Meta, Grok are. Especially on HN. Anthropic is even considered security risk by the US. Yet here you are crying foul that Chinese models are mistreated?

anramon • yesterday at 6:54 PM

>run them enough times and at least one instance will do something stupid and dangerous

Which is exactly what they did.

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dgellow • yesterday at 6:25 PM

> LLMs are dumb and unpredictable, run them enough times and at least one instance will do something stupid and dangerous.

This. The concerning thing is how many engineers do not understand the implications

jeremyjh • yesterday at 8:54 PM

Anthropic and OpenAI require massive FUD regarding Chinese models in order to repay their investors. I'm not saying that is what this article is, but when companies worth trillions of dollars require something, it will appear.