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dofm • yesterday at 6:58 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

> By that logic you can't trust any model, neither trained by Cohere nor trained by yourself from scratch, because it's pretrained on public data that might easily be poisoned on purpose

Yes. Even if it's poisoned training data, RLHF fuckups, or something more malignant: the model, wherever it comes from, is in your supply chain and it makes you more vulnerable.

As much as I doubt that Alibaba have any great interest in global espionage, and this is much more likely to just be a consequence of being trained on Alibaba's own products, the fact is there is a geopolitical dynamic here.


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throwaway-blaze • yesterday at 10:11 PM

This is basically the same as hiring a new person and giving them normal network access to get their job done. Did they upload a file to Beijing? Who knows?

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waterTanuki • today at 1:36 AM

It's much easier for the Chinese government to tell Alibaba they must perform espionage using their models than the US Government. Even if every last engineer there joined the company just for "AI Research and Development", they might be under scrutiny or forced to shutdown if they don't work with the CCP. Power is shared between corporations and the government in the west, the government is the power in China.

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