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Archit3ch • yesterday at 8:13 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

> leaving Anthropic providing about 5x the value on their plans

5x is calculated in terms of API costs, nobody pays those extreme Anthropic prices outside enterprise users.

> like they didn't just double the cost for most users

Most users aren't on their $200 plan. Most users (including on the $200 plan) continue being subsidized.


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killingtime74 • today at 7:19 AM

Enterprise users are the majority of the users in value. Subscribers are the loss leader hobbyists.

mapontosevenths • yesterday at 9:44 PM

> 5x is calculated in terms of API costs, nobody pays those extreme Anthropic prices outside enterprise users.

Ignore value then. Anthropic still provides about 3x as many raw tokens. The 20x\200 plans provide about 10B for openai versus almost 30B for Anthropic.

Do you really think that Opus uses 3x as many tokens as Sol per task? I don't.

> Most users aren't on their $200 plan.

Fair enough. I should have said most heavy users.

> Most users (including on the $200 plan) continue being subsidized.

They continue to be fifty percent less subsidized, I guess.

Look, I don't fault them for trying to become profitable. I fault them for the weird weaselly business speak about cost per task. It's BS game playing and we all know it.

I'm honestly rooting for them, and hope it all works out. For now though I'm pretty salty that my bill jumped by 150% in one month. Gaslighting about made up metrics just makes me more angry.

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