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vigilantpuma • yesterday at 10:30 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

There’s a difference between feedback regarding your work and language policing something like “you guys” which some people have just suddenly decided is offensive as of 2016 or so because I guess we’ve already solved the rest of sexism.


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hellisothers • today at 1:57 AM

This is/was absolutely a thing and I saw it happen to others and switched to y’all, I got called out for using “dude” and come on dude, dude is extremely gender neutral in this sense.

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buuyytp • yesterday at 10:54 PM

No one decided it was offensive. Show me anyone saying they're offended by the use of "guys" as a gender neutral term.

People get lumped into "guys" and feel excluded. That's such a different bar than feeling offended.

It's ok for you to say, "I'm sorry my language makes you feel excluded, but I'm not going to change" and it's ok for someone to think less of you as a result.

Why does everyone jump to the idea that people who want more inclusive language are offended? Or that the critique being offered here is that the language is offensive?

(Granted, sometimes that is the critique. Plenty of casual racism or ableism is offensive. But that's not the case with "guys".)

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