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stillpointlab • today at 1:48 AM • 12 replies • view on HN

I think OpenAI deserve credit for adjusting their approach after the last math drop. I think Terrance Tao shares some credit here for galvanizing the response.

Including the relevant mathematicians and scientists before dumping this onto the public is sure to go a long way to relaxing fears in those communities. I'm not sure how they will deal with accusations of favoritism but at least they are demonstrating a willingness to participate in a process.

I hope the community can express some positivity that will encourage OpenAI and other foundation labs to continue with this collaborative approach.


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doginasuit • today at 3:11 AM

Well said. Attribution is important, for obvious human reasons and to direct people to valuable context. But our names will fade fast from history, what matters is the journey of human knowledge.

> It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.

--Harry S. Truman

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Davidzheng • today at 7:03 AM

I don't understand. The AI-math guidance counsel has recently explicitly argued against what you say in paragraph two, and which is why for the Kakeya problem there was no group formed. The different communities have given different suggestions. I'm not sure how much I agree with the first paragraph either given these facts.

paxy • today at 2:40 AM

The approach hasn't changed all that much. It's more that the scientific community is slowly starting to accept the inevitable.

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throwaway1938ga • today at 2:57 AM

It’s always weird when people are so quick to use a single positive thing to trivialize the many historically questionable things an entity has done up till this point. It certainly doesn’t come from a place of rationality.

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jibalt • today at 3:01 AM

This is going to be a very big deal in some of my circles, which include KITP (the Kavli Institute of Theoretical Physics), where David Gross was the Director for many years and now holds the Chancellor's Chair Professor in Theoretical Physics.

rao-v • today at 2:38 AM

I’m not sure what meaningfully changed except for the QCD / yang mills result (where leaders in the field are going to do a review and write up first).

rockskon • today at 4:31 AM

After their effort to take credit for the research of others last time, it's within OpenAI's best interests to go the extra mile to convince skeptics to not dismiss new research findings.

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bar8uyr • today at 3:51 AM

Attribution is very important. Though AI hasn't really done anything yet so it hasn't affected actual mathematicians yet.

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throw567643u8 • today at 7:15 AM

They don't necessarily deserve credit, it is just the bare minimum courteous behaviour in academia to reach out to other researchers in the same area before publishing a result.

I'm also unaware of the quality of the consultation with the relevant mathematicians, colour me skeptical there.

doctorpangloss • today at 3:50 AM

Here let me fix their statement for you:

> "The external collaborations will follow four principles... until Anthropic, Google, DeepSeek, Google and dozens of Chinese companies all make the same offering, in which case we will rediscover and re-implement all of the things you hate about traditional academic advancement and publishing, except because our companies are run by people even more mercurial and self-absorbed than university presidents, we'll wind up supporting even fewer people to do it."

aaron695 • today at 3:32 AM

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onesandofgrain • today at 2:04 AM

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