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ShinyLeftPad • yesterday at 3:42 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

Yep and it's the same for Meta's "open" models which you omitted from the list.

Is there actually a competitive proper actually open model?


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maxloh • yesterday at 3:54 PM

I believe Meta's models were never truly frontier in the way Qwen, Kimi, etc., compare to Claude or ChatGPT.

Correct me if I am wrong.

badsectoracula • yesterday at 7:04 PM

Not sure if it is competitive but DeepSeek's models are under the mit license, including their most recent one.

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singpolyma3 • yesterday at 9:20 PM

DeepSeek 4.1 flash

crimsoneer • yesterday at 4:01 PM

Inkling, Nemotron Super, Beam Reflection (and of course Kimi, Qwen, etc)

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