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TacticalCoder • last Thursday at 5:22 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

> IPv4 is old and broken

IPv4 is old, very old. But how is it broken? It's literally been working just fine since it came out.

That there are limited addresses is something else: it doesn't mean it's broken.

I don't care that spying/surveillance devices have more trouble spying on me with IPv4 than with IPv6 and I don't care that some apps have a harder time establishing connection.

IPv4 works. SSH over IPv4 works. Browsing the Web over IPv4 works.


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Xirdus • last Thursday at 10:29 PM

IPv4 stopped working fine some 30 years ago. The invention of NAT was caused by IPv4 not working fine (RFC 1631 was written under assumption it's a temporary solution). Hole punching is a thing solely because IPv4 stopped working fine. Much like Y2K, the reason IPv4 appears to work fine is because absolutely massive engineering effort was put to work around the parts that don't work fine.

teddyh • last Thursday at 7:31 PM

> IPv4 is old, very old. But how is it broken?

It is broken for you by upstream NAT and CGNAT.

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