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zmmmmm • yesterday at 9:00 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

This could all go multiple ways but one of them is we end up in a place where technical security is just not possible to implement any more. What does that world look like?

Presumably it means much more behavioral security and inherent friction built in to everything we do. Maybe high value transactions will just inherently have to take multiple days to do, just to slow down things enough that human reaction time can equal what LLMs can execute?

On the technical side, I can see zero trust becoming completely saturated through every layer. The passkey you authenticate with isn't opening a gate to a trusted tier within which components trust each other - even within the same software component. Every internal function call at every layer doing hardware signature verification against continuously minted private keys (since we assume exposure, the lifetime can't be longer than milliseconds now).

It's really interesting to think through what a fundamentally robust security environent does look like if you bake in an assumption that technical security is impossible.


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m11a • yesterday at 9:56 PM

When we see a breach of AWS or GCP or leading banks, basically any org that has good security, I'll believe technical security is impossible.

Otherwise, I think this is a issue of vendors, even if potentially most vendors fit into the basket of having insufficiently good cyber posture in AI-era.

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anonymous908213 • yesterday at 9:28 PM

There is zero reason to suggest security is impossible. This is like musing "what if architecture is technically impossible" after the nth bridge collapse in the 1800s~early 1900s. At some point we take it seriously as a society. Until then, bridges will collapse out of choice to pursue short-term profit above all else.

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chrisjj • yesterday at 9:40 PM

> Presumably it means much more behavioral security and inherent friction built in to everything we do.

Ironic, after decades of defrictioning.