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Spivak • yesterday at 9:10 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

Well yes but once you're in the US someone owns the machine you're getting hit by and you can make them take it down. People won't just throw their hands up "well the operator isn't in the US nothing can be done", they'll just make DigitalOcean block them.


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AnthonyMouse • today at 4:43 AM

> Well yes but once you're in the US someone owns the machine you're getting hit by and you can make them take it down.

That's not how you get to high trust, since it requires the opposite -- you'd have to ID everyone and ban VPNs and restrict access to general purpose computers lest any fall under the control of a dastardly foreigner etc.

You can't build a high trust society inside of a police state because a high trust society is one where people do the right thing when no one is holding a gun to their head and a police state is holding a gun to your head.

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baby_souffle • today at 4:24 AM

> they'll just make DigitalOcean block them

Residential proxy. Most cloud providers are blocked or already on reputation watch lists.

A few thousand people downloading a “free vpn” app on their phone is all you need to be back up and running. They get a useful vpn in exchange for letting others borrow their IP.