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WarmWash • yesterday at 3:48 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

Intelligence is an arbitrary term humans assign to stuff subjectively.

Take out the "human" and it's all just algos on a scale of complexity.


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gnramires • yesterday at 6:43 PM

While true in general (all terms are just arbitrary terms humans assign to stuff!), usually there are underlying well-defined concepts that can be associated with common-sense language and common-sense notions. For example, a line is probably a very ancient notion, but it was made more well-defined in Euclidean geometry. I don't think intelligence is a meaningless concept, but I do think there are a number of different more or less well-defined underlying concepts or formal definitions. I tend to associate intelligence with ability to reach (potentially fuzzy) goals or satisfy certain conditions (time-continued goals), solve problems, etc.. Where I live I think there is some controversy around the term artificial intelligence because people associate intelligence with more broad cognitive activity maybe including consciousness.

In fact I think this is a particularly important distinction right now, that intelligence seems (to me somewhat unexpectedly/counterintuitively) somewhat independent from consciousness, at least as far as artificial systems go (for example, old school chess engines are much capable than humans at chess but are definitely not sentient or conscious).

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pkoird • yesterday at 3:55 PM

Agreed. Take human out and any system capable of doing an if-else is intelligent to a certain degree.

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nextaccountic • yesterday at 9:17 PM

Our brains are just a biological computer. And actually our bodies as a whole, and the whole life, in a sense

verdverm • yesterday at 5:29 PM

psychology also has favored behavioralism for a long time, such that if something displays the behavior, it is likely the same thing as that which we believe/know has the behavior already

It's come to be foundational to much of western thinking beyond psychology

A topical example is a portion of society believing that the top Ai researchers should be setting domestic political and economic policy, foreign affairs, and chem/bio weapon controls... instead of the experts in those fields. We extrapolate their above average capabilities in building Ai into an artificial general intelligence where it is not due.

naillumanist • yesterday at 7:50 PM

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