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zahlman • today at 8:02 AM • 0 replies • view on HN

> They're bundled in with appliance sets sold to first time home buyers and preinstalled in every apartment.

Do you object to stoves and refrigerators in the same way?

> The rest of the world doesn't have them.

This is not at all true. Source: my non-American household, which has had one for decades. (Also, web search.)

> even TC himself admitted that the dishwasher is sort of a solution in search of a problem

I don't recall him saying anything of the sort. I don't suppose you could provide a timestamp?

> Calling you all "naive" is really an understatement once the echo chamber begins reverberating. Jeez! Yes, you're part of it. I'm simply pointing it out. Yes, "citation needed" is a pseudointellectual crutch. No, you don't have to trust an influencer just because everyone else does.

It's not a matter of trust. TC presents a complete, reasoned, independently verifiable argument; and it turns out that his results replicate quite well. As per the skeptics.SE link you brushed off, and as per the personal experience of myself and many others.

At any rate, you are using inappropriate rhetoric and then disingenously trying to brush it off as "simply pointing out" claims that don't actually stand up to scrutiny.