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glimshe • today at 9:06 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

What about ARM? Isn't it also European?


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Danox • today at 7:23 PM

It was British until a short-sighted company sold it to the Japanese, the EU at the time was also looking in the other direction too.

lioeters • today at 9:22 AM

While ARM Holdings is based in Cambridge, England, it is majority owned by SoftBank Group which is a Japanese investment conglomerate.

What's important in the context of a European "sovereign computing" initiative is the licensing of the instruction set architecture. Like x86, ARM is still proprietary, while RISC-V is a free and open standard.

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LeFantome • today at 2:25 PM

Others have already talked about the Japanese and Suadis.

My point would be that it has already been demonstrated that you can lose access to ARM technology as a consequence of US sanctions.

ARM is not a sufficiently independent ISA to guarantee sovereignty.

With RISC-V, you may lose access to a specific core, chip, or supply chain. But your ecosystem can pivot to an alternative. Long-term, you have the option of complete in-sourcing.

So, even working with Chinese chips and boards today can be progress, as long as more domestic RVA23 options can be expected to arrive later.

hn_submit • today at 9:28 AM

It is if you define the UK being in Europe (the continent). It isn't part of the EU as of today, although there's a good chance it will be again in the future.

Even though it's Japanese-owned most of their R&D still takes place in England.

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