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comrade1234 • today at 4:12 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

My cousin speaks fluent Japanese. He had another western acquaintance living in Japan that was a stay-at-home dad who spent his days with Japanese mothers. It seems that women speak differently enough from men where the guy was learning female speaking (accent? Structure? I have no idea) and so my cousin had to talk to him privately and tell him he speaks like a woman...


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traceroute66 • today at 5:44 PM

> accent? Structure? I have no idea

Its a combination of many things, intonation and delivery, politeness (formality, honorifics etc.) level, word choice, particle choice.

Its known as onnarashii (女らしい) speech.

Its a historical thing which is gradually falling out of use. These days you tend to only mostly find it in situations where the politeness levels are needed/expected (e.g. hospitality industry).

AdmiralAsshat • today at 6:16 PM

It may be more pronounced in Japanese, but it's not like it's totally without precedent in English either.

Imagine a male, non-native English speaker learning from a group of stay-at-home moms. Deep South, Midwest, take your pick. He's gonna pick up some stuff. Men in the US aren't expected to say "Aw honey," or "Bless yer heart!"

rootsudo • today at 6:02 PM

yes, you're precieved weak/femenine and possible for lack of better word, gay/lgbt

the same goes for many langauges, but you need to learn the same japanese but different form and way its spoken. I had this issue too, luckily a few japanese women helped me OL/dates so I could steer but this is a big issue