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sailfast • today at 5:41 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

I dunno it sure seems to have worked for Uber and AirBnB…

I would amend your “breaking the law” comment to “willfully ignoring all regulation, taxes, and labor provisions” perhaps but, same sentiment.


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burningChrome • today at 6:14 PM

This is the old, "Easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission"

A lot of these companies have taken this approach. Break laws until someone finally notices AND does something about it. The runway to a slap on the wrist is often times more financially beneficial to companies - there is no incentive to stop if you run a billion dollar company and breaking the law gets you a $50M dollar fine you make back in a single month.

I thought SOX (Sarbanes–Oxley Act) was supposed to prevent a lot of this, but I guess companies just continue to find loopholes to exploit.

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whimsicalism • today at 6:12 PM

I think sometimes people need a visceral demonstration of what bad laws are actually preventing. Uber was a pareto improvement in my view: we are in a better world both for consumers & for low-income wages having ridesharing as a backstop.

On the other hand, I've come around to the view that sports betting is a net unqualified bad -- and I didn't necessarily feel that way before the Kalshi/PM explosion.

lenerdenator • today at 7:36 PM

Uber and AirBnB were things we should have taken far more seriously.

That being said, they weren't effectively offering unregulated gambling on any difference of opinion. Gambling is a vice. We've made it a regulated vice, but it's very much still a vice. If you get rid of the "regulated" part, people, including those with the ability to present a case in front of a grand jury, are going to see you as a 1980s cosa nostra capo and act accordingly.

tt24 • today at 7:07 PM

So your two examples of this supposed bad thing are two completely unambiguous goods for the world?

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jmuguy • today at 6:11 PM

What behavior from Airbnb do you think compares in criminality to running an online bookie?