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seemaze • yesterday at 4:14 PM • 9 replies • view on HN

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but even the $10k slayer espresso machine has a plastic water resevoir. Granted the brewing assembly is mostly plastic free.

While I sympathize with the sentiment to eliminate plastic from the transport chain for anything ingestible, it's practically impossible in the modern world.

Simple is usually best; glass or ceramic pour over, stainless press, or even the traditional South American coffee sock[0]

[0]https://perfectdailygrind.com/2016/01/coffee-sock-old-school...


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benrutter • today at 8:18 AM

> While I sympathize with the sentiment to eliminate plastic from the transport chain for anything ingestible, it's practically impossible in the modern world.

I think the argument is pretty simple:

- Plastic is bad (environment, microplastics, etc) - We should minimize it

That doesn't necessitate a "all the way to zero or don't bother" logic, which what you're saying reads as.

Coffee pods machines have been an environmental nightmare, great to see a growing trend that addresses this.

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panos_news • yesterday at 7:29 PM

This one has a glass reservoir. Look at the product page images before you decide to bear any news

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saidnooneever • yesterday at 4:20 PM

stainless steel might be less bad for environment if u chuck it in the bin but if you look at the entire process from getting ores to having the steel item i dont really think its a very big difference.

used to live nexto a huge steel refinery and many mental diseases and cancers in the area are up more than 50% not to mention lots of birth defects etc.

maybe its effects are more local idk. Not sure how glass and ceramic are made.

ofc not bad to try and eliminate plastics but having 1 plastic free device that is overly expensive is really just a status thing. it contributes nexto nothing to environmental goals which i think eliminating plastics belongs to.

u can just put the grounds in a cup and pour hot water on it afterall. tastes fine.

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plorg • yesterday at 4:22 PM

And unless you're picking it up at your roaster in a container you bring yourself the beans have probably been rattling around in a polyethylene-lined bag.

citrin_ru • today at 11:13 AM

Italian Moka Pot is one more simple and cheap plastic free option.

wackget • yesterday at 4:27 PM

I was very skeptical but apparently the Caraway machine uses a glass reservoir and stainless steel pipes.

ninininino • yesterday at 4:26 PM

> it's practically impossible in the modern world

This sort of defeatism is why people don't try. Consumers can shift products through purchase behaviors. We're already seeing improvements in kitchen appliances and gear, cosmetics, some outdoor gear.

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userbinator • today at 6:11 AM

While I sympathize with the sentiment to eliminate plastic from the transport chain for anything ingestible

I don't, and this is just stupid virtue-signaling for the easily gullible hypochondriacs.

Plastics came from hydrocarbons, which make up the bulk of all living matter.

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