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bityard • yesterday at 5:32 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

Models this size aren't targeting hobbyists running models in their bedrooms on gaming/surplus hardware bought with disposable income.

This model is for researchers who already have racks of equipment, inference providers who sell access to models, and for businesses who must (or choose to) use on-prem models. All of which have to pay to use the model if their revenue rises beyond certain thresholds: https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3.1-Pro/blob/main/LI...


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SR2Z • today at 12:53 AM

Considering the likelihood of Moonshot being able to collect a judgement for violating these terms in an American court is basically zero, and the relative ease of finding the weights without the licensing agreement, "have to pay" seems very generous.

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zozbot234 • yesterday at 6:04 PM

It's only "model as a service" providers beyond the stated threshold that have to pay. No issues for any kind of purely internal use.

limagnolia • today at 4:03 AM

Or, you can just not pay and save that money to defend yourself in case they do sue you. Because it isn't established that model weights are copyrightable.

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demo4567 • today at 12:22 AM

abd why should we expect this to be the case? I can atleast buy old server hardware for cheap. GPUs are currently locked down the whole industry.

minton • yesterday at 7:00 PM

> more than $20 million…in monthly revenue

Sign me up!

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