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Notes on San Marino

106 points • by yorwba • yesterday at 5:12 PM • 45 comments • view on HN

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rinconrex • today at 3:47 PM

I had the priviledge of visiting San Marino. Charming little country, and the food was amazing. Granted, it was only one day. I even had lunch next to the co-regent in a restaurant.

The whole of San Marino proper (the capital) was blanketed by fog, so my pictures were worthless, but the regent guard and their Christmas attire (Red and Green uniform) always made me chuckle.

TFA was a nice read, cheers!

jcranmer • today at 5:44 AM

One thing I sort of wished was touched on a little more: the concept of country is surprisingly modern. Modern international relations theory tends to trace the concept back to the Peace of Westphalia in 1648, but honestly, even that is really too early.

The map shown of 14th century Europe is doing better than most in that recognizes that several borders (but still too few) are fuzzy rather than lines on a map. The other problem you run into is that, in most non-state societies (in the Weberian sense of "monopoly on the legitimate use of force"), political linkages tend to be fragile and based more on personal ties so that a Big Man's successor may well repudiate the alliances and homages the Big Man makes. Which makes it hard to draw maps, because is Burgundy a part of France? The Duke of Burgundy is as often as not fighting the French king.

This is what makes adjudicating the "oldest continuous republic" hard, because at what point do we say that the homages San Marino is paying stops counting as being part of that country?

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isolay • today at 5:11 AM

> Their populations are content, their governments are highly functional, their economies hum along, and nothing of note has happened in any of them since World War II.

Another reminder that boring is good.

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EdwardDiego • yesterday at 9:47 PM

Fascinating read, especially about how San Marino stayed independent, love this writer's work.

ykl • today at 5:30 AM

This was a delightful read! I found the section on San Marino's political adventures in the 20th century particularly amusing; they did a mini version of everything else that was going on the world in the 20th century, but it turns out that when you're a small peaceful moderate country, it's hard for things to get too too out of hand at any given moment. Like yeah sure they had a Fascist period followed immediately by a Communist period, but apparently in the mildest way imaginable, and it's been mildly moderate ever since.

nico • today at 6:18 AM

For a moment I thought it was about the city/neighborhood in LA, where The Huntington Library is (highly recommend to visit this place)

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yakkomajuri • today at 10:47 AM

Was surprised to find Andorra grouped in here. If you're into nature it's a whole different story!

There's really amazing hiking out there.

adrian_b • today at 12:02 PM

This was much more complete and better written than I expected.

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thinkindie • today at 8:04 AM

“Rundown” isn’t the best definition for Rimini, though.

holoduke • today at 8:27 AM

The only reason why these states exist is because of tax evasion methods used by business people in countries around them. For example in Andorra you can rent an apartment for 100k a year and move your entire online business to the country and pay virtually no taxes at all.

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arjie • today at 4:46 AM

This seems like one of those Florida retirement communities that are gated. Except it’s in Italy. Similar dynamic.

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vivzkestrel • today at 3:06 AM

would be very interesting to see you spend 6 months in india and tour kashmir, kerala, north east india, west, cities, rural areas etc.

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