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joegibbs • today at 5:59 AM • 7 replies • view on HN

Why did people doubt this? It doesn’t sound so ridiculous that a Germanic-speaking people would come from Scandinavia, which has a island called Gothland, a province East Gothland and West Gothland, a city called Gothenburg and people called Geats (probably related to Goths).


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dmix • today at 6:18 AM

The article explains

> The findings challenge decades of scholarship that played down the importance of migration and emphasized the spread of language and culture between settled populations.“

> “What the genotyping is showing is what the ancient sources report, and what late–20th century historiography has been working very hard to deny,” says Yale University historian Noel Lenski, who was not involved in the work. “We have to … admit the sources knew more than we thought they did.”

If I'm reading that right they are implying academics were pushing the idea of cultural exchange being the most valuable thing, a vague menagerie of local and foreign cultures coming together, rather than a specific set of people arriving from a far off land to dominant an existing empire and influencing the entire region in the process.

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mjw1007 • today at 8:39 AM

When you're reading a popular-science story about a new discovery, there are two things to be careful about:

- are the claims it's making about the discovery right, or exaggerated?

- are the claims it's making about what people previously believed right, or exaggerated?

When I'm reading about areas that I happen to know something about, I find that there's a smallish tendency to exaggerate the first and a large one to exaggerate the second.

I think it's likely that's true in other areas. I get the impression it's particularly common for archaeological discoveries for some reason.

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bazoom42 • today at 9:44 AM

Science is not just believing what sounds plausible. It is about gathering evidence. Having historical, archeological and DNA evidence is a lot stronger that just historical evidence alone.

INTPenis • today at 10:04 AM

Yeah but I'm a Swede and even I thought those regions were named long after Rome, in tribute to Roman history. Claiming the origins of the infamous Goths just because of their accomplishments in the south.

Because Swedish history before 1000AD is very murky.

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barrenko • today at 7:11 AM

Or that Russia commenced as a Viking startup.

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contingencies • today at 7:36 AM

If you sail south (toward the sun) it's pretty hard to miss Poland, and you'd know it's there long earlier due to observing migratory seabirds.