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asutekku • today at 3:23 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

The Harvest website lists the following (annually billed) plans:

- Free (obviously free)

- Teams $9 a month

- Enterprise unlimited $14 a month

The writer of this article claims they got upgraded to $133.98 a month plan, but looking at the site, such plan does not even exist.

Something is a bit fishy here or they accidentally added an extra 3 to the $13.98 or mistook the yearly price for a monthly price.


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Aurornis • today at 3:29 AM

You need to read the “Starting from” text on their pricing page right before those prices you see.

You can have those lower monthly fees if you pay a higher percentage of your billings.

The article acknowledged that.

> There’s also a “flex” plan which costs $12.65/mo… but that plan now skims an additional 2% on top of the usual ~3% card transaction fees.

The problems with the Harvest acquisition driving up prices has been discussed a lot among consultants and contractors. This isn’t one person reading their billing page wrong. This is happening to all of their customers.

It’s how the acquiring company operates: Acquire companies, increase billing, accept that most customers will leave but some will stay and make up for the losses.

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Digory • today at 4:21 AM

Those are seat fees, which do not include the new usage fees. I got this email:

> “Looking at your account, you're currently on the Basic plan at $40.00/month with 5 seats, and you're scheduled to renew … on the Enterprise Unlimited plan at $586.50/month…”

So, from $40 to $586.50 for “unlimited” use. Same product. I think the goal was to force everyone onto usage based plans. I dropped spare seats and shifted off unlimited, and its about $75/mo per seat.

But if someone wanted to take over angry Harvest customers, it would probably be a good little business. Guess I just need to rip the bandaid off, and let a prompt run overnight.

benatkin • today at 3:34 AM

I think it's including pay for usage. From the pricing page, beneath both Teams and Enterprise:

> Your base rate includes core features. As your team grows, additional invoices, projects, clients, and tasks are billed based on what you use, so you're never overpaying.

That's a bit bewildering, lol. Especially since they have annual plans.

This clarifies it:

> On Flex billing your first (sign-up) invoice usually covers seats only, because no projects, tasks, clients, or invoices have been tracked yet. Usage-based charges are calculated from the previous billing period, so they first appear at your renewal — not at sign-up. This is why a bill can jump (e.g. from a seats-only $44 to $404 once usage is added).

https://support.getharvest.com/hc/en-us/articles/31447072608...

That's roughly a 10x multiplier, just like aphyr's jump from $13.32 to $133.98!

You're right something doesn't ad up, and seems fishy (to me, bizarre even). But that isn't the author, it's Harvest after the Bending Spoons aquisition.

unreal37 • today at 10:23 AM

Or you're just wrong.