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ayaros • today at 3:40 AM • 7 replies • view on HN

As a very long time user and lover of SketchUp, I'm still peeved about the direction Trimble took in neglecting the SketchUp desktop modeler in favor of a web-based UI. Their licensing was also terrible... first they discontinued the free version of SketchUp, and then later on they discontinued perpetual licensing, meaning the only way to get the desktop modeler was to pay several hundred per year, which wasn't worth it to me. If a vibecoded alternative displaces it in the market, I won't feel one bit sorry for them.

The kinds of large scale projects I like to make in SketchUp really began to feel constrained at a certain point. A modeler with SketchUp's incredible UI that can take full advantage of any computer's available graphics hardware to render large amounts of geometry more efficiently would be a wonderful thing.

I'm very possessive of my SketchUp models, and so the idea of storing them on any kind of cloud server I don't have control over is abhorrent to me. I was not happy to see Trimble putting so much effort into making a web-based modeler.


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fsloth • today at 2:22 PM

"he only way to get the desktop modeler was to pay several hundred per year, which wasn't worth it to me. "

This comes up so often it's good to explain what happened there.

They were not out to extract value from consumer.

They retargeted the offering to professional engineering and architecture firms.

SketchUp was originally an offering for the AEC market. Then Google bought it and essentially pivoted it to consumer offering. Then Trimble bought it and pivoted it back.

I do realize this hurts the person who is a non-professional user but AFAIK SketchUp sales have never been better.

So it's not a pivot out of stupidity or malice, it's just a pivot.

The main customers - engineering and architecture companies - seem to be fine with it.

If you were an engineer CAD manager it would be odd to pay hundreds per seat a year for a product consumers can get for a pittance. So it's about pricing power I guess as well.

And do agree as a consumer there should be better options.

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japanuspus • today at 7:23 AM

Been through the same journey -- and have been super annoyed each year when I paid the several hundred dollar license for a tool I didn't use much, but really needed when I did use it.

My exit has been FreeCAD with an MCP-bridge, letting me talk to an agent that implements my requests directly in the FreeCAD file I have open. Works super well with FreeCAD which has all the features I need, but where they can be hard to discover.

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tgtweak • today at 2:37 PM

It's one of the only software's I've felt genuinely zero remorse about pirating after purchasing a perpetual license and having them pull it out after. Adding to that the 3d warehouse forced backward-incompatibility on objects that you can trivially just open and export to an older version with zero differences to get it to work in most cases.

VBprogrammer • today at 8:04 AM

It's interesting, I have an interest in wood working, for a long time the defacto application for planning the majority of woodworking project was SketchUp. I can't say the last time I remember someone discussing it, probably because they are all using knock-off old versions and don't want to mention it.

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RobotToaster • today at 11:32 AM

I sometimes wonder what would've happened to SketchUp if google hadn't sold it.

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diego_moita • today at 1:43 PM

> I'm still peeved about the direction Trimble took

There is a name for it: "enshitification" is the strategy of maximizing short term gains, even if that results in product suicide on the long run.