alt Hacker NewsIt blows my mind how people still build their workflows around depending on services like these, with how easy it is to just self host and forget about all of this. You can buy a GPU that can run Qwen 3.8 flash next for about 9 months worth of the highest tier Claude Code subscription. You'll never have to worry about token limits, the model changing out from under you, getting banned, etc.
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nobody with the competence to judge the quality difference between frontier models and local models would ever, in a million years, use local models
Compared to Opus local models Opus 5.5 is far superior, also for something like a dgx spark at 5k that would be 25 months ignoring power costs if you chose the $200 plan.
And that’s looking at a large model, to host the equivalent sized model as Opus 5.5 you’d need more than a single dgx spark. A fairer comparison would be to Open models hosted remotely or comparable weak models like Luna which you would get away with a $100 plan or less. That also doesn’t account for token prices continuing to go down for the same level of intelligence.
What GPU can you buy that will run a 180B model for $1800?
20 euro claude sub is too good compared to a 6-10k hardware purchase to get something thats not even as good. Once the enshittification starts on full force it will be a different situation.
i dont understand how people keep comparing local models with frontier models, they dont belong in the same discussion especially for coding usecases. they solve different problems under different constraints.
What is the alternative? Local models? I do not think so. Maybe Kimi K3 (still not local) as this model can be served by multiple providers? However Kimi K3 sits between Sonnet/ Sol and Astra/Opus so still not the same level.
can u tell me the specs or hardware requirements to run qwen3.8 flash
Problem is that everyone loves to pretend their CRUD SaaS is special and requires the best of everything, so they 'need' the absolute frontier with as many tok/s as money can buy.
Voluntarily downgrading to Sonnet 4.5 level performance sure is one way of avoiding imagined degradation in Opus 5.5...
Yeah but what about your duty to consume and be part of the economy?
> You can buy a GPU that can run Qwen 3.8 flash next for about 9 months worth of the highest tier Claude Code subscription.
which GPU?
also, so, 90 months of my subscription? And I also would need to buy new RAM and other parts of a computer?
I can buy a GPU that can run Qwen 3.8 Flash Next for 9 months worth of the highest tier Claude Code subscription, but then I'm running Qwen 3.8 Flash Next when I could have had nine months of unlimited Opus 5.5.
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It's because the frontier models are superior and much faster.