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switchbak • today at 4:17 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

Do you have proof of the etymology of Meat Space? I mean other than some AI generated slop?

My understanding is that’s a new term, unrelated to the context you’re describing.


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blooalien • today at 4:47 PM

I've known the phrase "meatspace" for decades now as an "opposite" of "cyberspace" from some of the CyberPunk Sci-Fi of my childhood, though I cannot at this moment name any specific novels it might originate from. It's not a terribly new term, although it may have only recently gained common enough usage as to seem new to those who hadn't heard it before.

allturtles • today at 4:29 PM

It's been used on UseNet since at least the early 1990s [0].

I think it comes from a Perry Barlow-esque feeling that Cyberspace is an improvement on the "merely" meat real world (perhaps even a proxy heaven on earth, cf. Platonism). Sometimes it is tongue-in-cheek, other times earnest (I assume for people who have found the real world (and their real bodies) a disappointment.)

[0]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/what-is-meatspace.

knome • today at 4:32 PM

It's an old term. Here's a reference from the New York Times in 2000.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/...

Your parent comments needless disdain aside, it was just a silly term used to refer to offline.

BoxOfRain • today at 4:25 PM

This sounded off so I looked into it, apparently 'meatspace' has been around since the early '90s as a derivative of 'cyberspace'.

devmor • today at 4:27 PM

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/what-is-meatspace

It's been a term used on the internet for as long as I've been online.

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