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SR2Z • yesterday at 6:42 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

Supposedly, one of those half-billion-dollar ASML EUV machines has found its way to China somehow.

The best reason to NOT ban exports is that it really doesn't work against a peer state, and China is close enough now to count. Given the significant economic trouble in the PRC (youth unemployment, unwinding the property bubble, overproduction of EVs) the US could definitely have played this better instead of creating a vibrant full-stack domestic AI sector in China.


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MisterTea • yesterday at 7:08 PM

How would they obtain one? These kinds of industrial machines come in pieces and need to be assembled, commissioned and maintained by OEM personnel. The only thing I can think of is ASML sold a machine to a compromised company who secretly shipped it to China without ASML knowing.

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lencastre • yesterday at 7:04 PM

Still, it’s not like an off the shelf product with an 2 pager quick installation and first steps manual. Training, and maintenance, and repairs, and configuration,… I doubt you can simply ask your friendly neighbourhood LLM

chasd00 • yesterday at 7:41 PM

> vibrant full-stack domestic AI sector in China

This has crashed, check the markets.