logoalt Hacker News

jghn • yesterday at 5:10 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

> punishes married couples filing jointly: a couple making about $300K each

The number of married couples where each partner is making $300K each is a very, very small percentage of the population. Not sure this is a big deal to be concerned about in the grand scheme of things. For instance, only a few %age of households have an income over 300K in the first place, much less coming from 2 earners of that amount.


Replies

rancar2 • yesterday at 8:13 PM

I just think the team did a good job from what I’m reading. This inconsistency doesn’t impact the top 1% household (who commonly use larger loopholes to avoid taxation at magnitudes more significant than this inconsistency like using loan against assets which they can write off interest against taxes instead of paying taxes to the government). This quirk impacts households in the 2% level for just one fiscal year or more where they might just have a taxed event like a real estate sale (non reinvested primary within the timeline), a taxable equity grant (that the pay taxes on but may lose), one time capital gains from investment sales, etc.

Tax law is supposed to be consistent and fair in general, and the introduction of the Big Beautiful Bill created a weird quirk here, that gets quirkier that you can file separately and correct to jointly but not the other way around legally right now. From 2018–2024, the tax code was consistent on SALT, then in 2025 and looking forward to 2029 SALT taxation becomes inconsistent under certain joint filing conditions that impact a non-trivial number of households especially when it starts at $250k each, or a lopsided earnings of that combined amount and peaks at the $600k.

This team is identifying a pretty big quirk that goes against the principle of consistency in tax law and did a very good job of it applying formal logic to law if they prove this to be correct. Others have done too before AI (which is what your tax software is conservatively doing), but it’s just easier now with AI.

➕ show 1 reply
jedberg • yesterday at 5:29 PM

It might be a few people nationwide, but it's a whole lot of families in the Bay Area, New York, Los Angeles, and a few other major cities.

The law was specifically designed to punish these people. Remember, at first they wanted to drop the SALT deduction completely to punish blue states.

Edit: It seems that people are assuming I'm against removing the SALT deduction. Far from it. I am glad they got it done despite being a political third rail for a long time. And despite being a huge beneficiary of the SALT deductions myself.

I don't think people choosing to live in high tax states should get to save on their federal income taxes.

➕ show 2 replies
airstrike • yesterday at 7:21 PM

Making $300k _where_, though?

$300k in NYC is $115k in Alabama.

https://imgur.com/a/1rInLQB

➕ show 2 replies
rexpop • yesterday at 5:34 PM

But isn't that an undue burden on "job creators" with proportionately far-reaching downstream economic consequences?

➕ show 1 reply