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jacquesm • yesterday at 8:18 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

I don't care about the room.

I care about people downloading stuff they have no right to in the name of security, when actually that wasn't strictly necessary to document the fact that there is an issue.

As soon as you shift from showing that there is a problem to downloading data to establish the size of the problem you are the problem.

Whether he disclosed it responsibly or not is besides the point: you don't get to download a database to prove that it could be done, then you've changed a white hat POC into an actual leak and that is a completely different affair.

FWIW this was in Germany against a server in Sweden if I've understood it all correctly and I would bet a sizeable amount of money that I know more about EU data protection laws than you do.


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kryogen1c • yesterday at 9:06 PM

> As soon as you shift from showing that there is a problem to downloading data to establish the size of the problem

This is not a self-evident argument, what are you basing this on?

Problem scope is part of problem definition. If you dont know the scope, you dont know the problem.

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neathack • yesterday at 8:29 PM

Leaving aside the legal argument and focusing on the technical side: Lovable is a Swedish company, but websites generated by Lovable are hosted on servers around the world. That said, the actual data is stored on Supabase servers, which -- as far as I know -- are located in the US.

moralestapia • yesterday at 9:12 PM

>they have no right to

You seem to be confusing what feels intuitively wrong with what is actually unlawful. Law doesn't work on feelings. Where are the terms of use? Do they explicitly prohibit this kind of access? How do they define it?

If a website publishes data and provides a public key that automatically allows a browser to retrieve it, good luck arguing that your "security" was bypassed.

Also, OP mentions confidential information. That doesn't automatically make neathack liable. If I publish someone's medical records in a publicly accessible comment here, are you liable for reading them, or am I liable for publishing them on a website with essentially no access controls?

>an actual leak

Got a link? Or "just trust me, bro"?

>I would bet a sizeable amount of money

Unfortunately, my religion prohibits gambling, which we consider degenerate behavior. But by all means, keep the confidence. It would be even more impressive if it came with an actual legal argument.

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