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roenxiyesterday at 8:17 AM2 repliesview on HN

Another fun one is asking for a higher salary - for obvious reasons moderately sized companies have formal systems that make it logically impossible to do on an employees initiative (the boss doesn't control salaries, payroll doesn't control salaries and all the formal systems point to the boss and payroll). The real approach is that a worker has to somehow convince one of the people with serious power to overrule the default systems.

But the important thing to recognise is there are always people who can overrule a given formal process and they are being held accountable to something. The issue becomes what their incentives are. In the success stories in this article (like the one where the doctor saves a bunch of people) the incentives lead to a good outcome when the formal system is discarded. In the leading ground squirrel example someone without doubt had the power to prevent the madness and didn't because their incentives led them to sit quietly in the background hidden from history's eye. Ditto the Nazi example - obviously there was someone (probably quite a few someones) who could have stopped the killing. They didn't override the system because they through it was performing to spec, and it is probably difficult to prove they were in hindsight because informal systems don't get recorded.


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amos-burtonyesterday at 9:00 AM

If the incentive is the culprit, then the airport employee acted out of her mind because her own survival was more important than to act human... therefore, she is biologically similar, but spiritually guided differently. she would never tell you she gave herself or sacrificed (big word) to it (big word), she never knew anything else really, she saw things through the window all along her life, but never got to really experience it, it is so inconvenient to her, she whispered.

she feels more than a children of the cities, she has embodied them.

lotsofpulpyesterday at 11:12 AM

> the boss doesn't control salaries

I would call them a supervisor then.

It’s not logically impossible for any buyer to decide to pay or not pay more to a seller, it just depends how replaceable the buyer thinks the seller is, and how much they care (the buyer could be retiring with golden parachutes before shit hits the fan).