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somepersonyesterday at 3:35 PM6 repliesview on HN

As a outside observer, NAND and DRAM prices have skyrocket ed with the AI infrastructure boom just as the China-based fabs are coming online.

It is wise for these Chinese fabs to eventually use a very aggressive dumping strategy to price well below cost push out other players forever, especially in DRAM.

But right now it seems they can max out their supply capacity without selling below cost.

Appears to me like China's endless state led (often unproductive) investment in semiconductor manufacturing subsidies (for decades) is about to pay off with some industry dominance soon.

Like the electric vehicle sector.


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RobotToasteryesterday at 10:51 PM

It's amazing what can be achieved when you can plan 5 years in advance, instead of just making the line go up for the next quarter.

dygdyesterday at 6:18 PM

> It is wise for these Chinese fabs to eventually use a very aggressive dumping strategy to price well below cost push out other players forever, especially in DRAM.

Crucial's departure from the consumer market left such a gaping hole, that CXMT doesn't even need to push other players out to gain a footing.

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maxgluteyesterday at 6:27 PM

How's it dumping below cost when hey can simply sell for 100% margins instead of western makers selling for 400%.

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PowerElectronixyesterday at 5:06 PM

I personally fail to see the downside of any manufacturer selling forever at a loss, except for the manufacturer itself.

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nutjob2yesterday at 4:02 PM

It's funny that you call this an "very aggressive dumping strategy" while AI vendors are doing the same but with even greater losses and on a much larger scale.

It's all simply a fight for market share.

The original sin is the existing DRAM vendors selling their entire (spare) capacity to the likes of OpenAI.

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PearlRiveryesterday at 6:01 PM

Chinese investment has not been unproductive. It gave them independence so that the US could not cut them of- see Cuba.