There is an alternate World Peace Force that just got started recently because I believe, as regimes change, the UN will audit what happened. The issue is there will now be another international body that will argue the other way. It’s not exactly 3d chess, but, it is chess. Purchase of US TikTok (chess moves).

> All the hospitals are now rubble

Hospitals may have been used for retaliation [0], but it is unclear how many & in what capacity (according to accepted conventions, using a hospital to treat wounded combatants wouldn't make it a valid military target, for example; but hiding weapons or personnel would).

[0] One such recent report: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

It's pretty clear that Israel is ethnically cleansing so that they can live in a pure Jewish state.

You know who reminds me of that? Fucking Serbia and they got bombed for it.

> I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital"

The pro-Hamas people, including the BBC, did lie about bombing a hospital. A PIJ rocket fell into the carpark.

There was a seperate hospital that the IDF did bomb - with the usual evacuation warning - that MSF recently admitted was filled with Hamas fighters.

Like the genetics disorder kids (touted as 'starving children' by pro-Hamas accounts), and the 'genocide' where the population increased, I suspect this will also be proven wrong.

Two things are valid at once:

- Hamas is a terrorist organization that planned and executed a mass terror campaign, fully knowing and hoping for the reaction. And boasting about it continuously and repeatedly.

- Israel's response was hasty, unplanned, purely driven by emotion at the beginning, and it quickly grew beyond any reason in the next weeks.

> I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines.

The IDF has always said they will bomb anything used by Hamas. Hospitals have been widely used by Hamas for decades: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestin...

If you're referring to the "hospital bombing" which was actually caused by a Hamas rocket on 10/17/23, which set off the widespread genocide accusations, that wasn't the IDF: https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/26/gaza-findings-october-17...

The IDF has also widely accepted the total death toll as an approximation. They have widely disputed the breakdown of those deaths, both number of militants and women and children killed.

This particular incident, however, was clearly an egregious error or war crime and the IDF clearly attempted to cover it up. There were absolutely some such incidents in this conflict.

It should be telling, however, that the majority of the attention of groups such as "Forensic Architecture" is on Israel, rather than say, reasonably distributed among state level participants in war at present or in recent history. There are something like 20x as many deaths in each of Ukraine and Sudan - yet even HN has more stories about Israel.

I don't know why you're using the past tense here, I was still trying to talk some sense into these people barely two days ago. It's hopeless at this point.

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All the hospitals are rubble? Why did I see images of a basically untouched hospital after the fighting stopped? And it's irrelevant anyway as hospitals lose their protected status when used for military purposes. All the Geneva protections apply only to truly civilian things, not to things pretending to be civilian.

And Haaretz is not credible.

Your video is paywalled but also irrelevant as it shows emergency symbols, not proof they truly were medical. The Red Crescent specifically has refused to object to their symbol being used as a cover for military operations and as such it grants no special status on the battlefield.

I’m not sure why the Palestinians and allies are complaining. Their stated aim is the genocide of Jews and the destruction of Israel. That’s Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, Yemen. And they’ve tried but are too incompetent to succeed.

So when Israel meets them with the same energy, it’s all double standards and whining. That is beneath contempt, as some famous scorched earth general once said.

Hamas has weaponized every hospital in Gaza. By contrast, Israel has not dropped an aerial bomb on any hospital building in Gaza.

What has happened is Israel has attacked hospitals with Hamas presence using ground forces, and they have dropped bombs on hospital grounds, but not in hospitals themselves.